Instruction & Ask the pros. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. Or match what is on the. This is just what I've heard. Silver Member. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small group for 25 years on multiple pool forums but have found a home on this forum since 2003. Hal Houle had ways of explaining and doing it and we definitely know where you're coming from when his name is mentioned. He is a rather famous pool instructor who teaches pool to professional pool players and amateurs alike. To zero in on A or C, I simply line up the edge of the cueball to B first, as this is a very. Hal Houle. How does this work. knows that I'm a proponent of Hal Houle. I have read a few CTE threads but not really posted much. ALL of which had a pivot including CTE. Aiming ConversationI will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. Honestly no matter what "system" you use if you do not have a consistent stroke, a straight stroke, and good fundamentals, the want to get better, and. His best results are winning a stage in. CTE is a pre-shot routine that involves the use of the line from the center of the cue ball through the outside edge of the object ball (from the intended pocket. I don't usually visit or participate in forums other than the "Mail Forum," and maybe others are the same way. I hoped that he would chime in and help explain away the apparent dilemma. Well beyond the life of the lemming tribe. It is absolutely connected. But, center-to-edge aiming is only one part. I have shown Hal Houle's quarters system to APA 3s and 4s and watched them start making shots way above their skill level. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. Mary Lou Houle 04/11/1930 - 11/21/2022Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. I shared this with a friend, and he wanted to draw diagrams. If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . So no, not playing the victim at all. halhoule AzB Silver Member. He must have been up in his 80's; not sure. Note: I'm not saying that Hal came up with the light theory. . . that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. S. I do have a slight background as I have had some interaction with some of the CTE names. The pro's answer would be 4 + 0 = 4. It's this period of time that Jimmy Moore incorporated his pivot aiming technique. By: Search Advanced search…In your best interpretation of a professional pool player or professional instructor, PLEASE DEFINE FEEL IN AIMING. poolguppy AzB Silver Member. . And I listened. In fact, a "visual" as you describe (or as Hal described) in pool is not. If anyone would like to see the Contact and Pivot aiming or any of the Hal Houle systems that I know,(small ball, 3 lines, points of light, stick aiming, etc. When you slip stroke, you are essentially stopping the cue during the back stroke, and quickly sliding your hand back further on the cue, grabbing the cue. He said Hal Houle wants to meet you today. Ask The InstructorI'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. . C. After all, his wife Sonny says her husband spent the better part of a decade in the garage working on diagrams and other pool-related drawings. There are 3 court records for "Paul Houle" in "Broward County". Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. So far I have shown beginners and advanced players alike this system and they are all pocketing balls in the center of. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. In this example the pot required is a thinner hit than half ball, lets say 35 degrees. Dyer, writing in Billiards Digest: "One other detail about the pool legend - and an extremely. WATERTOWN – Barbara Houle passed into the loving arms of God in the early morning hours of July 30, 2023. . I watched a great match between Cowboy Jimmy Moore and Wimpy Luther Lassiter that was on Classic ESPN the other day. good evening America. By: Search Advanced search…Ron V. “Innovator” might be a better descriptor for Hal. I believe Fez, Jimmy, and Ralph Greenleaf, were partners. pj chgo . . For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. . Hal called it his three angle document. By: Search Advanced search…However, Hal Houle (there's that name again) also created a STICK AIMING SYSTEM that had nothing to do with CENTERS and EDGES. To the "Putdown Posse", Mr. . . How does this work. . What the old gent said to me is pretty much what Terry is saying in his video. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. S. Harold Houle, now 85, said the time he spent with Greenleaf came during the late 1940s, or possibly in 1950. Barbara Houle. Hal Houle has many systems, so you start from a false premise. Since the book teaches us that a 15 inside and a 30 outside are interchangeable, if there's some lingering doubt which one to utilize, we're on safe ground in shooting it with a 30 outside. from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on. As most of you know, Hal was known for being devious in explaining CTE and that created a lot of misunderstanding about it. That's going to change. The Sport Palace was a unique place for sure. I'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. If there were 10. It was what got his mind thinking about what we see on pool balls and how CTE came to be. Efren: Oh, aim. I've always been eager to hear anything that Stan had to say, especially when it comes to pool. By: Search Advanced search…Specifically in regards to CTE? We've gone from it can't work to it can't work as advertised. Tom simpson will be glad to teach it to you for a fee. Eventually, I became his successor. To Hal Houle for seeking me out in Denver and introducing me to aiming systems. Hal Houle . He also enjoyed keeping tabs on the various players and the members of AzBilliards. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. . These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. . Article posted in: Billiards Forum -> Cue Sports -> Pool Playing Tips -> Aiming and Execution Tutorials. Stan Shuffett. If anyone knows what it is supposed to be, then I. No personal. Instruction & Ask the pros. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Hal Houle/Family I think Hal is and was a great teacher- I have only learned over the phone- his cte stuff. Place the bridge hand down with the cue along this line. Landon Shuffett vs Earl Strickland in the Diamond 10-Ball 10 Foo…The Hal Houle Point and Pivot system is a billiard aiming system that uses the geometry, layout, and design of a pool table, as well as some common assumptions. Hal and CTE have been hotly debated for many years. You came to aiming systems because of all the discussion and development of systems that Hal developed. and I get all da rolls. How does Hal Houle’s three-angle system work? Hal Houles’ 3-angle system is a type of fractional-ball aiming system. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. May 1, 2023 #254 Dan White said: I think CTE discussion is more interesting that what color chalk do you use or which cue maker screwed somebody over this week, lol. AND ACCURATE. (edited December 26th, Amazon ended the free promotion and the book is now $1. Here's a graphic and basic. I find it interesting that a guy like svb who started playing pool when he probably was 5 or so and i think i herd him say he played in a league at 9 in a. Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. M is a visual aiming method. The methods that Hal Houle teaches are the most exact and precise ways to aim that I have ever seen. Cherished mother of David Morse, Kathleen (Mike) Morse, the late Sam Morse, the late Dean Morse, and the late Glen Morse. . Gulfport, Mississippi. Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. Without having tried this method on the table I want to acknowledge the spirit of innovation that exists that motivates players to run with concept of. None of them were related to math and geometry. ”Hal Houle Point and Pivot System by Billiards Forum Editor's Desk | Sep 30, 2014 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards New Post - Hal Houle Point and Pivot. Unfortunately, it might be expensive to call him from your house in Russia. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. the method fits the definition. Hal told me to stop before I got into that trench. . The Master BCA instructor is quite. And who would have been the first to do it? YOU GUESSED IT IF YOU SAID PAT JOHNSON, who was the first in 1997 to go after Hal Houle on RSB and then other users. What the old gent said to me is pretty much what Terry is saying in his video. " Hal's greatest joy was. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. I don't know why and frankly I. Instruction & Ask the pros. All I can I can say for now is that NO ONE loved pool more than Hal. I wish I would have known him back when he and I were younger. M is aiming by the numbers. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. . It's reduced so much that it literally becomes point and shoot with no. In TP A. But he said he understood the concept, so I gave him the okay. There are only two ways to be lined up on a shot, either on the correct aiming line to make the shot or on the incorrect. I'm a completely new player. If anyone knows what it is supposed to be, then I. He has created several different systems to help people play better. There were so many that were disrespectful and that is one if the things I despise about AZB. . Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. 5railkick said: I read on the other forum that Hal uses a 2 angle method to aim every shot. Stan and Landon Shuffett took an interest in Hal's CTE and they both met and studied with Hal. I'd like to post his name but I. You are referring to Hal Houles aiming system. ALL of Hal Houle's systems had the exact same foundation. left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. All of which are very interesting and Ive been mixing and matching depending on the shot but for easy shots, I still use the ghostball system. . At the end of the day Aiming Systems are being proven to work and accepted by more and more people. 3 angles for all shots, on any size pool table, including snooker & bar tables. I didnt locate the photo until the first editions were already printed. Some players took as long as 6 seconds before pulling. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. Stan Shuffett, a pool player and instructor from Kentucky, took deep interest in CTE and refined it to his own system known as CTE Pro/One. S. he said he doesn't have to!!! lol that's classic right there!Hal Houle was without a doubt the greatest LATERAL THINKER in history when it came to POOL AIMING SYSTEMS! He developed over 20 aiming systems for pool and each one was way OUTSIDE THE BOX VISUALLY and in PERFORMANCE. You can go past center to get to outside . . I've met Hal a few times. August 1, 2023. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. None of them were related to math and geometry. Wondering if anyone has a story involving Hal Mix (RIP). Hal Houle showed this to me and it worked. If you can run all 15, more power to you. Stan Shuffett entered the picture a week ago or so and invited to teach me his CTE/Pro One Aiming System. S. Search titles only. Was great to hear his stories. . Once you become trained to see nothing but those 3 lines and completely eliminate CONTACT POINTS strung across the OB and CB to link. I'm going to explain how to shoot this shot into the upper right corner pocket using real CTE. Apparently he had many aiming systems. (since we have nothing but the edge of the object. Share your videos with friends, family, and the worldHal Houle would have been so very proud, and I myself am proud for you and Hal. Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. Hal, what he created, and those who followed will live forever. First of all, there are NO contact points involved with the OB. FYI, I just updated my online glossary of pool and billiards terms and phrases. (Houle's memory is somewhat hazy on the point. Houle is a surname. Hal Houle, during his research with aiming came to understand that the spheres we use for playing pool have 360 ticks on their circumferences. 5 = 4. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. There is no way in this universe that Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett and the countless other instructors teaching objective aiming methods created non-working purely psychological mind tricks just to mess with your sense of order. B. Regardless of whether you like, love or hate the use of the tip for that purpose. Hal Houle was a great man that changed the way I see the game of pool. Hal understood what they were doing in order to connect with the angles that lead to pockets even if they had no clue. The blue line is the initial line up method that you would manually have come to with just eying the shot. The part that confuse me is why is there. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. This quote came from R. Any videos of Jimmy from around this period, included the video cited in this thread, clearly show Jimmy pivoting into center ball from. Stan reveals how the 30 perception was "king" with Hal Houle. Would anyone who was taught by Hal,or have any stories they would like to share about the man Hal Houle, and give us. And let us not forget about the written rules laid out my Mike in the Aiming Forum. Jul 16, 2008 #9 Hal, I've heard you are open to describe your aiming system on the phone but don't go away with it written. I use Hal Houle's "3 aim line" method, which I use CTE as a double check to see if I'm aligned right. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. . By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. Anybody know?dunno if the user named "halhoule" is the real thing, but he seems to be spamming this 'efren reyes aiming system' stuff + a phone number to people. I have to say that Hal Houle gave me the aiming perspective that I use about 90 percent of the time. In my opinion if you HONESTLY wanted to learn CTE then. – Hal Houle’s 3-angle system – Hit-A-Million-Balls (HAMB) aiming system – How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS) – limited lines or alignments of aim – midpoint parallel-shift aiming system – 90/90 pivot-based aiming system. RecSportBilliards in 1996. Even Mother Teresa and Ghandi have detractors. . )From the very first ball i hit with Hal Houle on the other end of the phone . Most errors in a stroke originate in the backstroke, and get amplified on the forward stroke. I decided last winter to turn myself into an Open caliber. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. Stan took it beyond the pivot by making it a true visual system which is Pro1. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. I had a lesson fron Stan Shuffet and have had a phone conversation Hal Houle. If you and I were on a table for me to show you, you'd easily agree. So no, not playing the victim at all. It is a system that is surrounded by plenty of skepticism, for sure. Still doing it. Search titles only. Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. Jul 15, 2008 #8 Bval Use The Aiming System That Efren Reyes Uses. A. Instruction & Ask the pros. I can unabashedly say that I stole the Sailor's system en toto and reproduced it in my book. Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. I know Hal Houle there are only 3 or 4 shots in pool. According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. . Hal was not a great teacher, and did not really understand how or why most of the systems worked. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. Instruction & Ask the pros. There are a lot of 'instructors' selling players on various ideas they claim are magic bullets. How does Hal Houle’s three-angle system work? Hal Houles’ 3-angle system is a type of fractional-ball aiming system. Recently, I've started playing more and. M is not exclusive but normally taught by SPF Instructors. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. This method may not be for everyone, as it takes an analytical mind to wrap your head around. Hal teaches several systems. Hal Houle was the first that I heard of that was teaching it, and I believe it was his system. Apr 24, 2017 #98 cookie man said: I got immediate results from CTE. gentlemen - upside down glasses are the NUTS. By: Search Advanced search…23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called Rec. I don't have the numbers anymore, as they were in a notebook I can. Hal Houle definitely made life easier for the aiming process of pocketing balls. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Search titles only. Most would say 2 + 2 = 4, others 1 + 3 = 4, 3 + 1 = 4 or 1. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. We identified 117 records related to "Paul Houle" in the state of Florida. Condolences to his wife and family. I am using the ORIGINAL HAL HOULE SYSTEM. What they have figured out works and for some reason that bothers you. Also let me know if you disagree with any of the existing. I ran across a YT video of a snooker coach having his student wear this and practicing. If you would like a copy, email me atThe answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. You can learn it by calling Hal. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. Both of these men have spent a lot of time figuring out alternative ways to line up to the shot. . Stan has worked for years on developing CTE/Pro One and that is. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. My goal, to which I am willing to dedicate a good amount towards, is to promote the aiming systems of Hal Houle and those who teach them. I like. Unfortunately, it might be expensive to call him from your house in Russia. hal houle. description:. However Hal Houle is AWESOME and so is Ron Vitello. . Vahmurka. I've met Hal a few times. S. – Hal Houle’s 3-angle system – Hit-A-Million-Balls (HAMB) aiming system – How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS) – limited lines or alignments of aim – midpoint parallel-shift aiming system – 90/90 pivot-based aiming system – parallel-lines systems – Perfect Aim – pivot-based system issues – Pro One – shaft-edge aiming system The common fractional-ball aiming system, sometimes referred to as Hal Houle’s 3-angle system. There are literally a zillion possible shots on a 5,000 square inch playing surface. Because Hal Houle and Stan Shuffett created them Click to expand. The methods that Hal Houle teaches are the most exact and precise ways to aim that I have ever seen. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. hal houle. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. And by honest try, I mean give it at least 10 tries, hopefully. and let's go to press. Think About It. You came to aiming systems because of all the discussion and development of systems that Hal developed. i have a comment which will go something like this---many years ago there was a man named hal houle--houle as in pool he used to say! he posted on rsb to the dismay of most- an aiming system - boasting of 6 angles . Just reading the 1st chapter brings back so many memories of my teachings with Hal. Stan's overall knowledge and understanding of pool is off the charts. add another ball that can be used with. Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lenghts,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls. Guess the system. Too bad and bullshit if that's the mindset. Jan 16, 2020. . Hal Houle invented it about 7 or 8 DECADES ago and called it Shiskebob. . Search titles only. I try to use the aim & pivot method which goes like aim with the cue stick somewhere aside of the cue ball center to the contact point or the edge of the object ball and then pivot (only with the back hand) to the middle of the cue ball. Search titles only. 23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called. "3-point" or "ball fractions" system. Hal Houle's Aiming Center to Edge etc. Hal and CTE have been hotly debated for many years. poolguppy AzB Silver Member. Loading…I've been using basic CTE for awhile, but using older information. What is the Supposed Phenomenon of Center to Edge Aiming? This thread is an attempt to garner for ALL concerned. The idea behind the slip stroke is minimizing the length that your cue moves on the back stroke. CTE is a pre-shot routine that involves the use of the line from the center of the cue ball through the outside edge of the object ball (from the intended pocket. By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. The Hal Houle Point and Pivot system is a billiard aiming system that uses the geometry, layout, and design of a pool table, as well as some common assumptions to help you determine the appropriate spot on the object ball to strike with the cue ball. Hugo Houle: Born 27 September 1990 (age 33) Sainte-Perpétue, Canada: Height: 1. The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. His gem being Center To Edge. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. I have been playing pool since I was seven, shining shoes in bars, I'm 63. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. He showed me quite a bit about pool. The step by step process will be revealed. I was just wondering what aiming systems are geometrically correct? I've been looking into different aiming systems lately because I think it might be. I would telephone every few months checking in with him or he would call me and we would talk. The fact is that all systems which work will end up with the player in the SAME place which is lined up correctly. Basic aiming systems Wondering if anyone has a story involving Hal Mix (RIP). And in fact I do credit Hal Houle and Stan and everyone working on objective aiming for keeping me interested in playing. . If anyone would like to see the Contact and Pivot aiming or any of the Hal Houle systems that I know,(small ball, 3 lines, points of light, stick aiming, etc. I want to credit Hal rightly so don't confuse Houle's Pivot Aim with his controversial fractions and degrees aim system. :grin-square: Perhaps the video will be large enough to honor Hal Houle for what he created. Houle's aiming system to his students in the future. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System. i teach professional aiming systems. I tried the Hal Houle edge of the ball system, but I found that I was never. " Hal's greatest joy was. I read morhts article but I would like further clarification. Ask The InstructorIt's a useless question, no one knows. It is not CTE but it IS a Hal Houle aiming system called SHISKABOB. not so good, sorry. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. #4. Started playing in 1934. He contacted many people simply to give them a tip on aiming, the stroke, or other subjects. Sep 18, 2014. Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. hang in. Hal was a veteran of the U. pj chgoInstruction & Ask the pros. . Without having tried this method on the table I want to acknowledge the spirit of innovation that exists that motivates players to run with concept. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. He got it. Yes, the process is VISUAL and pivot based with VERY strong math and geometric support. Sep 18, 2021 #53Stevie Moore - ProOne - derived from Hal Houle's systems as taught by Stan Shuffett Darren Appleton - Something similar to the S. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. I wasn't bugged by the endless arguments on RSB 14 years ago over aiming, I simply skipped them. Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. They could care less about 90/90 or the SEE System. you aim the left quarter, center and right quarter of the CB (the "3. Directly quoting Mr. It was very obvious to me how Jimmy was making balls. By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. Barbara was born in Waterbury and was the. To Dave Segal for being so vocal about what. Hal is no longer with us, but fortunately, he showed. Yes. Started playing in 1934. Just sayin'. He never charged for lessons, often given over the phone. . Yes, I aim to put ball in pocket. This includes; caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 1, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double kiss banks. add another ball that can be used with. Yes, the process is VISUAL and pivot based with VERY strong math and geometric support.